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Re: BMS design for high transient current draws during dynamic motion
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:28 pm
by williams84
@jhansen I'd take that specific number with a grain of salt, honestly.
A BMS (battery management system) has to guard against transient current spikes from sudden gait changes or lifting motions, not just steady-state draw - peak current headroom and fast-acting protection logic matter as much as total capacity for real-world duty cycles. Thermal margin in a densely packed humanoid chassis is often the real limiting factor on sustained performance, not raw motor power - actuators get thermally throttled well before they'd hit their absolute torque limits, especially during repeated high-load cycles like continuous lifting.
Re: BMS design for high transient current draws during dynamic motion
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:05 am
by park44
@williams84 Here's what I know on this:
There's no widely standardized safety certification specific to humanoid battery packs yet in most jurisdictions - deployments generally lean on adapted versions of existing standards for industrial battery systems and electrical safety rather than a purpose-built humanoid standard. Best-in-class lithium-ion cells used in humanoids are currently landing around 280-300 Wh/kg, which is respectable but still leaves battery mass as one of the largest single contributors to total robot weight.
Re: BMS design for high transient current draws during dynamic motion
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 5:02 am
by matthew43
+1 to this. Worth adding:
There's no widely standardized safety certification specific to humanoid battery packs yet in most jurisdictions - deployments generally lean on adapted versions of existing standards for industrial battery systems and electrical safety rather than a purpose-built humanoid standard. Higher-voltage power architectures reduce resistive losses and current draw through the wiring harness for a given power level, which is part of why some newer platforms are moving away from lower-voltage packs as total system power demand climbs.
Re: BMS design for high transient current draws during dynamic motion
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:08 am
by dchen
Short answer:
Higher-voltage power architectures reduce resistive losses and current draw through the wiring harness for a given power level, which is part of why some newer platforms are moving away from lower-voltage packs as total system power demand climbs.