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Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:48 pm
by ethan_fisc
@sharonschmidt Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here.
Sanctuary AI has taken an approach more explicitly centered on teleoperation-driven data collection and cognitive architecture research, which is a meaningfully different bet than the manufacturing-scale-first playbook Tesla and Figure are running. Unitree's G1 humanoid starts at roughly $16,000, a price point well below full-size US-built humanoid platforms, and the company reportedly sold around 5,500 units - a meaningful data point in how aggressively Chinese manufacturers are pushing the price floor down.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 12:11 pm
by park44
@ethan_fisc One nitpick -
Apptronik raised a $520 million Series A at a $5 billion valuation (bringing total funding to roughly $935 million), with its Apollo humanoid reportedly being tested by Mercedes-Benz - a notable data point for how much capital a single humanoid startup can now attract.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:14 pm
by chloe_jack
Just to be precise about one thing:
AgiBot reportedly sold around 5,168 units, putting it roughly in the same commercial volume range as Unitree among Chinese manufacturers, and worth watching alongside the more internationally recognized Chinese players. Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:23 am
by scott.andersson5
@chloe_jack I see it a little differently.
Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales. Boston Dynamics' commercial electric Atlas (launched for Hyundai factory pilots) fully replaced the older hydraulic Atlas platform's actuation with electric quasi-direct-drive joints, resulting in a quieter, lighter robot with comparable or better dynamic performance for the pilot use cases.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:06 am
by zoeanderson
@scott.andersson5 Short answer:
Sanctuary AI has taken an approach more explicitly centered on teleoperation-driven data collection and cognitive architecture research, which is a meaningfully different bet than the manufacturing-scale-first playbook Tesla and Figure are running. Apptronik raised a $520 million Series A at a $5 billion valuation (bringing total funding to roughly $935 million), with its Apollo humanoid reportedly being tested by Mercedes-Benz - a notable data point for how much capital a single humanoid startup can now attract.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:58 pm
by park44
@zoeanderson Not sure I fully agree here.
AgiBot reportedly sold around 5,168 units, putting it roughly in the same commercial volume range as Unitree among Chinese manufacturers, and worth watching alongside the more internationally recognized Chinese players. Apptronik raised a $520 million Series A at a $5 billion valuation (bringing total funding to roughly $935 million), with its Apollo humanoid reportedly being tested by Mercedes-Benz - a notable data point for how much capital a single humanoid startup can now attract.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:16 pm
by mia.weber
Ran into exactly this myself.
Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:39 am
by deborah59
Tangent, but worth mentioning:
Estimated total operational commercial humanoids worldwide sit around 7,000-8,000 units as of mid-2026, broken down roughly as Optimus Gen 3 (1,000+), Unitree (5,500+ cumulative), Agility Digit (~250), Apptronik Apollo (~80), and Figure (~150) - useful context for how early-stage 'commercial scale' still is industry-wide.
Totally unrelated but has anyone else noticed how fast component costs are dropping this year.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:03 pm
by camila.jackson0
@deborah59 I'll believe the stronger version of that claim when it's independently verified.
Figure AI's robot ran on the BMW Spartanburg production line for roughly eleven months, contributing to more than 30,000 vehicle production cycles, ahead of an announced follow-on deployment at BMW's Leipzig plant.
Re: 1X NEO - home robot ambitions vs industrial reality, thoughts?
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:33 am
by barbara50
This is exactly the kind of context I was looking for.
Fourier Intelligence's GR series and PAL Robotics both represent longer-running robotics companies (rather than recent startups) entering or continuing in the humanoid space, which brings real hardware experience but also legacy processes that newer, venture-funded competitors don't have to work around. Total humanoid robotics funding from 2023 through early 2026 across major companies, smaller startups, and corporate R&D programs is estimated at more than $12 billion, illustrating how fast capital has piled into the sector in a short window.