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Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:26 pm
by olga_lind
I can speak to this a bit.
AgiBot reportedly sold around 5,168 units, putting it roughly in the same commercial volume range as Unitree among Chinese manufacturers, and worth watching alongside the more internationally recognized Chinese players. Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales.
Kind of makes me think about how different this all looked even three years ago.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:04 am
by sharonschmidt
@olga_lind Tangent, but worth mentioning:
Automotive manufacturers - BMW, Mercedes, BYD, Geely, and Toyota among them - have become some of the most important early adopters, largely because their factories already have the structured environments and safety processes that make early humanoid deployment more tractable. Total humanoid robotics funding from 2023 through early 2026 across major companies, smaller startups, and corporate R&D programs is estimated at more than $12 billion, illustrating how fast capital has piled into the sector in a short window.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:58 pm
by kwilliams
Just to be precise about one thing:
1X's NEO platform is notable for explicitly targeting home use rather than only industrial deployment, which is a meaningfully different (and arguably harder) engineering and safety target than warehouse or factory-floor robots. Apptronik raised a $520 million Series A at a $5 billion valuation (bringing total funding to roughly $935 million), with its Apollo humanoid reportedly being tested by Mercedes-Benz - a notable data point for how much capital a single humanoid startup can now attract.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:35 am
by emilyperez
@kwilliams Genuinely curious -
Fourier Intelligence's GR series and PAL Robotics both represent longer-running robotics companies (rather than recent startups) entering or continuing in the humanoid space, which brings real hardware experience but also legacy processes that newer, venture-funded competitors don't have to work around. Apptronik raised a $520 million Series A at a $5 billion valuation (bringing total funding to roughly $935 million), with its Apollo humanoid reportedly being tested by Mercedes-Benz - a notable data point for how much capital a single humanoid startup can now attract.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:11 am
by williams84
Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here.
Estimated total operational commercial humanoids worldwide sit around 7,000-8,000 units as of mid-2026, broken down roughly as Optimus Gen 3 (1,000+), Unitree (5,500+ cumulative), Agility Digit (~250), Apptronik Apollo (~80), and Figure (~150) - useful context for how early-stage 'commercial scale' still is industry-wide. Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales.
Reminds me a bit of the early drone hobbyist scene, honestly.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:56 am
by mia.weber
To answer this directly:
Automotive manufacturers - BMW, Mercedes, BYD, Geely, and Toyota among them - have become some of the most important early adopters, largely because their factories already have the structured environments and safety processes that make early humanoid deployment more tractable. Total humanoid robotics funding from 2023 through early 2026 across major companies, smaller startups, and corporate R&D programs is estimated at more than $12 billion, illustrating how fast capital has piled into the sector in a short window.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 12:48 pm
by jonathan.rao1
From hands-on experience,
Figure AI's robot ran on the BMW Spartanburg production line for roughly eleven months, contributing to more than 30,000 vehicle production cycles, ahead of an announced follow-on deployment at BMW's Leipzig plant.
Makes me wonder how this looks in another five years.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:50 pm
by scott21
@jonathan.rao1 That's the official framing, at least - reality tends to lag a bit.
Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:38 am
by jhansen
Sorry if this is a basic question, but
XPeng's IRON humanoid debuted with a solid-state battery, part of a broader trend of Chinese entrants (alongside GAC's GoMate and EngineAI's T800) pushing energy-density and runtime claims that Western competitors haven't yet matched in announced specs.
Totally unrelated but has anyone else noticed how fast component costs are dropping this year.
Re: Which Chinese humanoid makers should people outside China actually be watching?
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:05 pm
by mia_lars
Can I ask a dumb follow-up -
1X's NEO platform is notable for explicitly targeting home use rather than only industrial deployment, which is a meaningfully different (and arguably harder) engineering and safety target than warehouse or factory-floor robots.