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Re: How much does finger friction coating actually matter for grip reliability?
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:48 am
by young56
Minor factual note:
A lot of the manipulation shown in production demos still leans heavily on teleoperation, particularly for anything involving fine force control or novel objects - autonomous grasp success rates on genuinely unstructured, previously-unseen clutter are still well below what teleoperation can achieve.
Re: How much does finger friction coating actually matter for grip reliability?
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:34 am
by emilyperez
Here's what I know on this:
Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can. Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence.
Re: How much does finger friction coating actually matter for grip reliability?
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:19 am
by deborah59
@emilyperez Follow-up question though -
Payload-to-hand-weight ratio varies a lot across current dexterous hands, and it's a meaningful tradeoff - more DoF and finer sensing generally means more actuators and mass in the hand itself, which eats into the arm's usable payload budget.
Re: How much does finger friction coating actually matter for grip reliability?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:30 pm
by karen.chen3
@deborah59 Minor factual note:
Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts. Wet, oily, or otherwise low-friction objects are still a genuine edge case for most current hands, since tactile sensing and grasp-force controllers are typically tuned and validated on dry, higher-friction test objects.
Re: How much does finger friction coating actually matter for grip reliability?
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:26 am
by zoeanderson
This raises a question for me -
Wet, oily, or otherwise low-friction objects are still a genuine edge case for most current hands, since tactile sensing and grasp-force controllers are typically tuned and validated on dry, higher-friction test objects.