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Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 10:29 am
by joseph_sing
This is a great summary, thanks.
Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence.
Makes me wonder how this looks in another five years.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:47 pm
by ethan_fisc
Genuine beginner question -
In-hand reorientation (repositioning a grasped object without setting it down) is one of the more advanced manipulation skills, requiring either a highly dexterous hand with enough DoF or clever use of gravity and controlled slipping - it's an active research area rather than a solved problem.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 7:31 am
by ananya.novak
I dealt with almost this exact situation.
Cable routing through a wrist joint with multiple degrees of freedom is a genuinely tricky mechanical design problem - tendons and wiring both need enough slack to avoid binding through the full range of motion without tangling or fraying over thousands of cycles.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2026 7:29 am
by young58
Just to be precise about one thing:
Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.
Makes me wonder how this looks in another five years.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2026 7:17 am
by emilyperez
One nitpick -
Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence. Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2026 1:28 am
by lbianchi
@emilyperez This is exactly the kind of context I was looking for.
Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts.
Makes me wonder how this looks in another five years.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2026 5:18 pm
by yuki71
@lbianchi Agreed, and I'd add:
Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself. Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence.
Totally unrelated but has anyone else noticed how fast component costs are dropping this year.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2026 4:33 am
by noah_pate
Counterpoint:
Imitation learning from human demonstration video (without robot teleoperation data) is an appealing way to scale up training data cheaply, but it runs into the embodiment gap - human hand kinematics and force profiles don't map directly onto a robot hand's very different mechanism. Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:03 am
by scott.andersson5
@noah_pate That's the official framing, at least - reality tends to lag a bit.
Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence.
Re: How do you evaluate in-hand slip detection reliability?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2026 3:56 am
by williams84
Just to be precise about one thing:
Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can. Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts.