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Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2026 3:44 am
by brian.campbell
Yeah, this tracks with what I've read as well.
Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can. Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2026 9:28 am
by sven.wilson4
Yeah, this tracks with what I've read as well.
Vision-based grasp confidence estimation (predicting success before attempting a grasp) and tactile-based confirmation (confirming after contact) are complementary rather than competing - vision helps you choose a grasp, tactile tells you if it actually worked.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2026 9:29 am
by edward.nelson
Here's the relevant bit as far as I understand it:
Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them. Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2026 9:35 am
by karen.chen3
@edward.nelson Minor factual note:
Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2026 2:23 pm
by barbara_liu
@karen.chen3 Just to be precise about one thing:
Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts. Vision-based grasp confidence estimation (predicting success before attempting a grasp) and tactile-based confirmation (confirming after contact) are complementary rather than competing - vision helps you choose a grasp, tactile tells you if it actually worked.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2026 12:59 pm
by cynthia.muller
@barbara_liu From hands-on experience,
Object occlusion by the robot's own hand during the final approach to a grasp is a common and annoying perception problem - the closer the hand gets to a good grasp position, the more it blocks the camera's view of exactly what it's about to grab.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2026 12:16 am
by arjunsanchez
Slightly off-topic, but related:
Vision-based grasp confidence estimation (predicting success before attempting a grasp) and tactile-based confirmation (confirming after contact) are complementary rather than competing - vision helps you choose a grasp, tactile tells you if it actually worked. Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:48 pm
by lbianchi
@arjunsanchez Slightly off-topic, but related:
In-hand reorientation (repositioning a grasped object without setting it down) is one of the more advanced manipulation skills, requiring either a highly dexterous hand with enough DoF or clever use of gravity and controlled slipping - it's an active research area rather than a solved problem. Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2026 4:53 am
by ethan17
@lbianchi This is a great summary, thanks.
Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself.
Re: How much does object symmetry actually simplify grasp planning in practice?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by niklas29
@ethan17 Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here.
Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts.