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Re: How are people cooling actuators packed that densely?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:05 am
by benjaminsanchez
Tangent, but worth mentioning:
It's common for a single humanoid to mix actuator types by joint - harmonic drives or hybrid geared actuators at the hips and shoulders where sustained torque matters most, and lower-ratio QDD-style actuators at ankles and knees where backdrivability and impact tolerance matter more.
Re: How are people cooling actuators packed that densely?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:28 pm
by charlesbianchi
This matches what I've seen too.
Anti-backlash techniques in production actuators range from mechanical preloading (spring-loaded gear meshes) to purely software compensation that models and corrects for known backlash in the control loop.
Re: How are people cooling actuators packed that densely?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:15 am
by carlossanchez
@charlesbianchi I'll believe the stronger version of that claim when it's independently verified.
Quasi-direct drive (QDD) actuators use lower gear ratios (roughly 6:1 to 10:1) paired with high-torque-density motors, trading some peak force density for backdrivability and low reflected inertia, which matters a lot for impact tolerance and fall recovery. Encoder resolution requirements scale with how tightly you need to control low-speed motion - coarse encoders are fine for open-loop swing phases but cause visible stutter during precise placement or fine force control.
Re: How are people cooling actuators packed that densely?
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:41 am
by yuki71
From hands-on experience,
Field-oriented control (FOC) tuning directly affects how smooth torque output feels - poorly tuned current loops show up as audible whine and jerky low-speed motion, while well-tuned FOC can make even a geared actuator feel fairly fluid.
Re: How are people cooling actuators packed that densely?
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:02 pm
by kwilliams
Small correction on one detail:
Reflected inertia is what a limb 'feels like' to the outside world through the gearbox - a high-ratio harmonic drive reflects a lot of the rotor's inertia back to the joint, making the limb feel stiffer and less forgiving on unexpected impacts.