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Re: Tactile fingertip wear and tear - how long do sensors actually last in daily use?

Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 3:16 am
by benjaminsanchez
@olga_lind One nitpick - Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself. Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can.

Re: Tactile fingertip wear and tear - how long do sensors actually last in daily use?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 5:39 am
by cynthia.muller
@benjaminsanchez This is exactly the kind of context I was looking for. Cable routing through a wrist joint with multiple degrees of freedom is a genuinely tricky mechanical design problem - tendons and wiring both need enough slack to avoid binding through the full range of motion without tangling or fraying over thousands of cycles.

Re: Tactile fingertip wear and tear - how long do sensors actually last in daily use?

Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 6:47 am
by yuki71
I see it a little differently. Object occlusion by the robot's own hand during the final approach to a grasp is a common and annoying perception problem - the closer the hand gets to a good grasp position, the more it blocks the camera's view of exactly what it's about to grab.

Re: Tactile fingertip wear and tear - how long do sensors actually last in daily use?

Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 7:42 pm
by kwilliams
Pretty much this. One thing to add: Tendon-driven fingers let you move the heavier actuators back into the palm or forearm, keeping the fingers themselves light and fast, but they introduce cable routing, tensioning, and long-term wear problems that direct-actuated fingers don't have. Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself.

Re: Tactile fingertip wear and tear - how long do sensors actually last in daily use?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 8:52 pm
by jhansen
Genuine beginner question - Object occlusion by the robot's own hand during the final approach to a grasp is a common and annoying perception problem - the closer the hand gets to a good grasp position, the more it blocks the camera's view of exactly what it's about to grab. Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts. Kind of makes me think about how different this all looked even three years ago.

Re: Tactile fingertip wear and tear - how long do sensors actually last in daily use?

Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 9:18 pm
by sharonschmidt
Short answer: Tendon-driven fingers let you move the heavier actuators back into the palm or forearm, keeping the fingers themselves light and fast, but they introduce cable routing, tensioning, and long-term wear problems that direct-actuated fingers don't have. Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence.