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Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2026 10:37 pm
by deborah59
Just to be precise about one thing:
Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2026 12:50 pm
by jwang
One nitpick -
Imitation learning from human demonstration video (without robot teleoperation data) is an appealing way to scale up training data cheaply, but it runs into the embodiment gap - human hand kinematics and force profiles don't map directly onto a robot hand's very different mechanism.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:30 pm
by joseph31
@jwang Speaking from personal experience here,
Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2026 5:24 pm
by tariqlarsen
Appreciate the detailed answer.
Imitation learning from human demonstration video (without robot teleoperation data) is an appealing way to scale up training data cheaply, but it runs into the embodiment gap - human hand kinematics and force profiles don't map directly onto a robot hand's very different mechanism.
Totally unrelated but has anyone else noticed how fast component costs are dropping this year.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 4:53 am
by sarah.santos3
@tariqlarsen Slight correction, though the overall point stands:
Imitation learning from human demonstration video (without robot teleoperation data) is an appealing way to scale up training data cheaply, but it runs into the embodiment gap - human hand kinematics and force profiles don't map directly onto a robot hand's very different mechanism.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2026 11:42 am
by mia.weber
@sarah.santos3 Side note that might be relevant:
Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2026 8:04 pm
by gary.tanaka2
This is a great summary, thanks.
Object occlusion by the robot's own hand during the final approach to a grasp is a common and annoying perception problem - the closer the hand gets to a good grasp position, the more it blocks the camera's view of exactly what it's about to grab. Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2026 7:42 am
by mia_lars
@gary.tanaka2 Counterpoint:
Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2026 4:40 pm
by james15
Minor factual note:
Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence.
Re: How do you deal with occlusion of the object by the hand itself during grasping?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 9:42 am
by dubois35
@james15 I'd frame this differently.
Cable routing through a wrist joint with multiple degrees of freedom is a genuinely tricky mechanical design problem - tendons and wiring both need enough slack to avoid binding through the full range of motion without tangling or fraying over thousands of cycles.