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Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:11 am
by scott.andersson5
I can speak to this a bit.
Multi-camera calibration drifts over time from thermal expansion, vibration, and mechanical wear, which is why production systems typically run periodic recalibration routines rather than assuming a one-time factory calibration holds forever.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:36 am
by matthew43
Slightly off-topic, but related:
Sensor fusion mostly earns its keep by covering for each individual sensor's weaknesses - vision struggles with occlusion and lighting, IMUs drift, force/torque sensors are noisy at low loads - fusing them gives a more robust estimate than any one source alone, independent of raw compute.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 7:59 pm
by scott21
I dealt with almost this exact situation.
Vibration is one of the most underrated sources of noisy IMU and tactile readings - mounting matters as much as sensor quality, and a poorly isolated mount can add more noise than the sensor's own datasheet specs would suggest.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:49 pm
by matthew43
@scott21 Pretty much this. One thing to add:
Depth sensing range and reliability both degrade outdoors in direct sunlight for most structured-light and active stereo cameras, since the ambient IR washes out the projected pattern - it's a real limitation for humanoids intended for anything beyond indoor, controlled environments.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 6:18 am
by williams84
Ran into exactly this myself.
Sensor fusion mostly earns its keep by covering for each individual sensor's weaknesses - vision struggles with occlusion and lighting, IMUs drift, force/torque sensors are noisy at low loads - fusing them gives a more robust estimate than any one source alone, independent of raw compute. Multi-camera calibration drifts over time from thermal expansion, vibration, and mechanical wear, which is why production systems typically run periodic recalibration routines rather than assuming a one-time factory calibration holds forever.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:05 am
by mohammed64
I see it a little differently.
Event cameras (which report per-pixel brightness changes rather than full frames) are still more of a research curiosity than a production sensor for humanoids, mainly because the software ecosystem and processing pipelines around them are far less mature than for standard frame-based cameras.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 3:57 pm
by zoeanderson
@mohammed64 Tangent, but worth mentioning:
Estimating joint torque from motor current draw is cheap and requires no extra sensor, but it's less accurate than a dedicated torque sensor because it doesn't capture friction losses through the gearbox - good enough for coarse control, not always for precise force-controlled tasks. Unitree's Dex3-1 dexterous hand packs around 33 pressure/tactile sensors per hand across the fingers and palm, capable of sensing pressure roughly in the 10g-2500g range - a useful reference point for what 'production tactile sensing' looks like right now.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:39 pm
by emilyperez
Thanks for laying this out, genuinely useful.
Vibration is one of the most underrated sources of noisy IMU and tactile readings - mounting matters as much as sensor quality, and a poorly isolated mount can add more noise than the sensor's own datasheet specs would suggest.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:10 pm
by scott.andersson5
@emilyperez From hands-on experience,
Estimating joint torque from motor current draw is cheap and requires no extra sensor, but it's less accurate than a dedicated torque sensor because it doesn't capture friction losses through the gearbox - good enough for coarse control, not always for precise force-controlled tasks.
Re: What sensor fusion architecture do you actually trust for balance control?
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 7:46 pm
by richard36
Still learning the space, so correct me if wrong -
Unitree's Dex3-1 dexterous hand packs around 33 pressure/tactile sensors per hand across the fingers and palm, capable of sensing pressure roughly in the 10g-2500g range - a useful reference point for what 'production tactile sensing' looks like right now.
This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.