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Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Sat May 30, 2026 2:52 am
by young58
@freya.smith Short answer:
In-hand reorientation (repositioning a grasped object without setting it down) is one of the more advanced manipulation skills, requiring either a highly dexterous hand with enough DoF or clever use of gravity and controlled slipping - it's an active research area rather than a solved problem.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2026 10:46 pm
by ethan_fisc
@young58 Here's the relevant bit as far as I understand it:
Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
Reminds me a bit of the early drone hobbyist scene, honestly.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2026 1:09 am
by charlesbianchi
Genuinely curious -
Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2026 12:04 pm
by smartinez
Genuine beginner question -
Vision-based grasp confidence estimation (predicting success before attempting a grasp) and tactile-based confirmation (confirming after contact) are complementary rather than competing - vision helps you choose a grasp, tactile tells you if it actually worked.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2026 11:49 am
by rossi30
This lines up with my experience.
Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2026 1:53 am
by wei_ross
@rossi30 Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here.
Tendon-driven fingers let you move the heavier actuators back into the palm or forearm, keeping the fingers themselves light and fast, but they introduce cable routing, tensioning, and long-term wear problems that direct-actuated fingers don't have.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 3:26 am
by scott.novikova7
Slight correction, though the overall point stands:
Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 6:31 pm
by johnrossi
@scott.novikova7 Thanks for laying this out, genuinely useful.
Object occlusion by the robot's own hand during the final approach to a grasp is a common and annoying perception problem - the closer the hand gets to a good grasp position, the more it blocks the camera's view of exactly what it's about to grab. Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 1:56 am
by william.moreau6
I'll believe the stronger version of that claim when it's independently verified.
Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.
Re: How much does hand mass distribution affect arm control complexity?
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 2:28 am
by scott21
@william.moreau6 One nitpick -
Tendon-driven fingers let you move the heavier actuators back into the palm or forearm, keeping the fingers themselves light and fast, but they introduce cable routing, tensioning, and long-term wear problems that direct-actuated fingers don't have. Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can.