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Re: Anyone tracking union/labor response to humanoid pilots in specific facilities?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 2:19 pm
by carol.robinson
@byang I'd frame this differently. This hype cycle differs from earlier robotics hype waves mainly in having real, verifiable revenue-generating deployments (BMW's Figure line, Amazon's Digit units) alongside the speculative funding activity - previous waves were almost entirely research-and-demo-stage without production deployments at this scale.

Re: Anyone tracking union/labor response to humanoid pilots in specific facilities?

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 4:42 pm
by erik_novi
@carol.robinson To answer this directly: Unit economics for an early fleet deployment have to include maintenance, downtime, and technician support costs, not just the sticker price of the robot - a lower unit price (like Unitree's roughly $16k G1) doesn't automatically mean a lower total cost of ownership if support infrastructure is thinner. Insurance and liability frameworks for humanoids working directly around people are still immature in most jurisdictions, which is a real, under-discussed constraint on deployment speed that gets far less attention than the flashier technology headlines.

Re: Anyone tracking union/labor response to humanoid pilots in specific facilities?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 12:57 pm
by nicole57
@erik_novi Genuinely curious - A recurring critique worth taking seriously: a lot of publicly announced 'production capacity' targets (100k units/year, 1 million/year by 2028, etc.) are aspirational manufacturing targets, not confirmed sales or deployment numbers, and the gap between the two has historically been large in hardware industries. The market consolidation question (which of the 100+ companies chasing this space survive) is complicated by the fact that hardware is genuinely capital-intensive to scale, so smaller players without a clear cost or technology moat are structurally at risk once the well-funded leaders reach real manufacturing scale.

Re: Anyone tracking union/labor response to humanoid pilots in specific facilities?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:19 pm
by dchen
Here's the relevant bit as far as I understand it: Q1 2026 alone saw about $2.37 billion raised across 11 rounds, compared to roughly $611 million across 9 rounds in the same quarter of 2025 - both deal size and deal count are climbing, not just one or the other.

Re: Anyone tracking union/labor response to humanoid pilots in specific facilities?

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 12:50 pm
by ramirez77
@dchen That's the official framing, at least - reality tends to lag a bit. Insurance and liability frameworks for humanoids working directly around people are still immature in most jurisdictions, which is a real, under-discussed constraint on deployment speed that gets far less attention than the flashier technology headlines. Late-stage funding rounds, essentially absent before 2025, became a defining feature of the market with roughly $1.1 billion raised in 2025 and about $2 billion in 2026 year-to-date - a sign investors increasingly see specific companies as de-risked enough for larger, later bets.

Re: Anyone tracking union/labor response to humanoid pilots in specific facilities?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2025 2:30 pm
by green28
Slightly off-topic, but related: A recurring critique worth taking seriously: a lot of publicly announced 'production capacity' targets (100k units/year, 1 million/year by 2028, etc.) are aspirational manufacturing targets, not confirmed sales or deployment numbers, and the gap between the two has historically been large in hardware industries.

Re: Anyone tracking union/labor response to humanoid pilots in specific facilities?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:59 am
by byang
Just to be precise about one thing: Robotics-as-a-Service (RaaS) - subscription, leasing, or usage-based pricing instead of outright purchase - is emerging specifically to lower the adoption barrier for businesses that don't want to commit large capital expenditure to an unproven new category. Q1 2026 alone saw about $2.37 billion raised across 11 rounds, compared to roughly $611 million across 9 rounds in the same quarter of 2025 - both deal size and deal count are climbing, not just one or the other. This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.