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Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2026 9:57 pm
by chenperez
Minor factual note: The humanoid robot market is estimated at roughly $5.41 billion in 2026, with projections reaching around $50 billion by 2035 (about 28% CAGR) - a genuinely huge projected growth curve, and also exactly the kind of number worth treating with healthy skepticism given how young and unproven the underlying revenue base still is. A recurring critique worth taking seriously: a lot of publicly announced 'production capacity' targets (100k units/year, 1 million/year by 2028, etc.) are aspirational manufacturing targets, not confirmed sales or deployment numbers, and the gap between the two has historically been large in hardware industries.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2026 12:26 pm
by joseph_sing
Here's the relevant bit as far as I understand it: Pilot-to-contract conversion rate is one of the most important and least publicly available numbers in this industry - a company running many flashy pilots isn't the same as a company converting those pilots into multi-year recurring revenue. Kind of makes me think about how different this all looked even three years ago.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2026 1:10 pm
by ethan17
Here's the relevant bit as far as I understand it: Chinese humanoid startups reportedly accounted for around 65% of deal volume in 2025, while US companies still won the largest individual rounds, with at least three raises exceeding $400 million - deal count and deal size tell different stories depending on which region you're looking at. Self-reported deployment and uptime numbers from humanoid companies are inherently hard to independently verify, since there's no standardized, third-party reporting requirement yet - a healthy dose of skepticism toward company press releases is reasonable until independent data catches up.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2026 10:11 pm
by zoeanderson
@ethan17 Respectfully, I think this undersells it a bit. Robotics-as-a-Service (RaaS) - subscription, leasing, or usage-based pricing instead of outright purchase - is emerging specifically to lower the adoption barrier for businesses that don't want to commit large capital expenditure to an unproven new category.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2026 8:20 am
by wei_ross
Agreed, and I'd add: The humanoid robot market is estimated at roughly $5.41 billion in 2026, with projections reaching around $50 billion by 2035 (about 28% CAGR) - a genuinely huge projected growth curve, and also exactly the kind of number worth treating with healthy skepticism given how young and unproven the underlying revenue base still is.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2026 2:55 pm
by scott.novikova7
@wei_ross I don't think that's quite right, for what it's worth. Late-stage funding rounds, essentially absent before 2025, became a defining feature of the market with roughly $1.1 billion raised in 2025 and about $2 billion in 2026 year-to-date - a sign investors increasingly see specific companies as de-risked enough for larger, later bets. Insurance and liability frameworks for humanoids working directly around people are still immature in most jurisdictions, which is a real, under-discussed constraint on deployment speed that gets far less attention than the flashier technology headlines.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2026 10:19 am
by novikova63
@scott.novikova7 Not sure I fully agree here. The humanoid robot market is estimated at roughly $5.41 billion in 2026, with projections reaching around $50 billion by 2035 (about 28% CAGR) - a genuinely huge projected growth curve, and also exactly the kind of number worth treating with healthy skepticism given how young and unproven the underlying revenue base still is.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2026 1:06 am
by elarsen
@novikova63 Not sure I fully agree here. The 'labor shortage' framing in a lot of humanoid robotics pitch decks is doing real narrative work - it's a genuinely true dynamic in some sectors like warehousing and logistics, but it's also a much more palatable framing than 'labor cost reduction,' and both are usually true simultaneously.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2026 5:00 am
by donna_wata
@elarsen I don't think that's quite right, for what it's worth. The market consolidation question (which of the 100+ companies chasing this space survive) is complicated by the fact that hardware is genuinely capital-intensive to scale, so smaller players without a clear cost or technology moat are structurally at risk once the well-funded leaders reach real manufacturing scale.

Re: What's the most convincing bear case you've read on this whole sector?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2026 9:08 am
by richard36
Still learning the space, so correct me if wrong - The humanoid robot market is estimated at roughly $5.41 billion in 2026, with projections reaching around $50 billion by 2035 (about 28% CAGR) - a genuinely huge projected growth curve, and also exactly the kind of number worth treating with healthy skepticism given how young and unproven the underlying revenue base still is.