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Re: How do commercial humanoids handle actuator failure gracefully (or don't they)?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2026 10:14 am
by kim37
Minor factual note:
Boston Dynamics' commercial electric Atlas switched fully from hydraulic to QDD-style electric actuation, ending up quieter and lighter with comparable or better dynamic performance than the old hydraulic platform. Anti-backlash techniques in production actuators range from mechanical preloading (spring-loaded gear meshes) to purely software compensation that models and corrects for known backlash in the control loop.
Re: How do commercial humanoids handle actuator failure gracefully (or don't they)?
Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 9:34 pm
by young56
Speaking from personal experience here,
Boston Dynamics' commercial electric Atlas switched fully from hydraulic to QDD-style electric actuation, ending up quieter and lighter with comparable or better dynamic performance than the old hydraulic platform.
Re: How do commercial humanoids handle actuator failure gracefully (or don't they)?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2026 2:33 pm
by barbara50
One nitpick -
Harmonic drives use high reduction ratios (often around 100:1), which gives excellent force density, stiffness, and thermal endurance for continuous-duty lifting - the tradeoff is low backdrivability and some backlash.
Re: How do commercial humanoids handle actuator failure gracefully (or don't they)?
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 10:16 am
by zoeanderson
@barbara50 Agreed, and I'd add:
Motor cogging torque (the 'notchy' feel from magnet-to-slot interactions) shows up as small periodic torque ripple that can translate into visible joint jitter at low speeds - it's usually mitigated with skewed magnets, better current control, or software compensation tables. Field-oriented control (FOC) tuning directly affects how smooth torque output feels - poorly tuned current loops show up as audible whine and jerky low-speed motion, while well-tuned FOC can make even a geared actuator feel fairly fluid.
Anyway, good thread - following for more.