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Re: Coreless vs iron-core motors for lightweight joints
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 6:00 pm
by servoken70
@ananya.novak That's the official framing, at least - reality tends to lag a bit.
Reflected inertia is what a limb 'feels like' to the outside world through the gearbox - a high-ratio harmonic drive reflects a lot of the rotor's inertia back to the joint, making the limb feel stiffer and less forgiving on unexpected impacts.
Re: Coreless vs iron-core motors for lightweight joints
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2026 3:18 pm
by rivera14
Follow-up question though -
Reflected inertia is what a limb 'feels like' to the outside world through the gearbox - a high-ratio harmonic drive reflects a lot of the rotor's inertia back to the joint, making the limb feel stiffer and less forgiving on unexpected impacts.
Re: Coreless vs iron-core motors for lightweight joints
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2026 11:13 am
by mia_lars
This is a great summary, thanks.
It's common for a single humanoid to mix actuator types by joint - harmonic drives or hybrid geared actuators at the hips and shoulders where sustained torque matters most, and lower-ratio QDD-style actuators at ankles and knees where backdrivability and impact tolerance matter more.
Re: Coreless vs iron-core motors for lightweight joints
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2026 9:28 am
by servobre20
Appreciate the detailed answer.
For dynamic walking and recovery, joint control bandwidth in the tens of Hz range is typically necessary to react to a stumble before the center of mass gets too far outside the support polygon. Motor cogging torque (the 'notchy' feel from magnet-to-slot interactions) shows up as small periodic torque ripple that can translate into visible joint jitter at low speeds - it's usually mitigated with skewed magnets, better current control, or software compensation tables.
Re: Coreless vs iron-core motors for lightweight joints
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2026 2:10 pm
by amandawhite
@servobre20 Just to be precise about one thing:
A lot of the per-joint cost in a modern actuator isn't the motor - it's the combination of a precision gearbox, integrated encoders, torque sensing, and the driver electronics, all of which have to fit inside a housing the size of a fist.