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Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2026 7:41 am
by greta.carter
@kim37 Thanks for laying this out, genuinely useful.
Domain randomization - varying friction, mass, sensor noise, and even visual textures during training - is one of the more reliable tricks for improving sim-to-real transfer, but overdoing it can make training slower to converge and produce overly conservative policies.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2026 9:12 pm
by rtorres
I dealt with almost this exact situation.
Physical Intelligence's pi0 pairs a smaller pretrained vision-language backbone with a separate flow-matching 'action expert' module, which is one way to get fast, high-frequency action output without needing the whole giant language model to run at control-loop speed.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2026 6:40 am
by deborah59
@rtorres Counterpoint:
Model predictive control (MPC) is still very much alive in production humanoids, often working alongside or underneath learned policies - MPC handles short-horizon dynamically-consistent trajectory optimization while learned components handle perception, task-level decisions, or recovery behaviors that are hard to hand-model.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2026 9:29 am
by amandawhite
+1 to this. Worth adding:
Physical Intelligence's pi0 pairs a smaller pretrained vision-language backbone with a separate flow-matching 'action expert' module, which is one way to get fast, high-frequency action output without needing the whole giant language model to run at control-loop speed. Domain randomization - varying friction, mass, sensor noise, and even visual textures during training - is one of the more reliable tricks for improving sim-to-real transfer, but overdoing it can make training slower to converge and produce overly conservative policies.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2026 11:11 pm
by ashley_flor
This matches what I've seen too.
Whole-body control (WBC) formulates locomotion and manipulation as a single optimization problem across all joints simultaneously, respecting contact constraints and task priorities - it's more general than ZMP-only approaches but is computationally heavier and harder to tune.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2026 1:35 am
by mohammed64
@ashley_flor +1 to this. Worth adding:
Isaac Lab (the successor to Isaac Gym) is widely used for large-scale parallel RL training thanks to GPU-accelerated physics, while MuJoCo is often used as a secondary 'sim-to-sim' validation step because its contact dynamics are generally considered more realistic than Isaac's, even though it trains slower at scale.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by garcia51
@mohammed64 +1 to this. Worth adding:
'Zero-shot sim-to-real' rarely means literally zero real-world tuning in practice - it usually means the policy transfers well enough to be usable with only calibration and minor safety-limit adjustments, rather than needing a full additional training phase on hardware.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by nicole57
@garcia51 Slight correction, though the overall point stands:
Diffusion policies model the distribution of possible actions and sample from it, which handles multimodal manipulation tasks (multiple valid ways to grasp something) more naturally than a single deterministic action output, at the cost of slower inference. Isaac Lab (the successor to Isaac Gym) is widely used for large-scale parallel RL training thanks to GPU-accelerated physics, while MuJoCo is often used as a secondary 'sim-to-sim' validation step because its contact dynamics are generally considered more realistic than Isaac's, even though it trains slower at scale.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by omar.farouk
I can speak to this a bit.
Balance-recovery controllers are usually evaluated with push-recovery tests (a known, repeatable lateral push) in demos, but real-world robustness also depends on recovering from unstructured events like uneven flooring, unexpected contact, or a dropped payload shifting the center of mass mid-stride - which is a much harder, less demo-friendly test.
Re: What's the current best practice for safe exploration during real-world RL?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by olga_lind
Tangent, but worth mentioning:
Model predictive control (MPC) is still very much alive in production humanoids, often working alongside or underneath learned policies - MPC handles short-horizon dynamically-consistent trajectory optimization while learned components handle perception, task-level decisions, or recovery behaviors that are hard to hand-model.