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Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Thu May 28, 2026 11:04 am
by young58
One nitpick -
A lot of the manipulation shown in production demos still leans heavily on teleoperation, particularly for anything involving fine force control or novel objects - autonomous grasp success rates on genuinely unstructured, previously-unseen clutter are still well below what teleoperation can achieve. Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2026 4:17 am
by jchen
Slight correction, though the overall point stands:
Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can. Wet, oily, or otherwise low-friction objects are still a genuine edge case for most current hands, since tactile sensing and grasp-force controllers are typically tuned and validated on dry, higher-friction test objects.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2026 2:49 pm
by richard36
Pretty much this. One thing to add:
Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2026 5:10 pm
by shill
This matches something I went through recently.
A lot of the manipulation shown in production demos still leans heavily on teleoperation, particularly for anything involving fine force control or novel objects - autonomous grasp success rates on genuinely unstructured, previously-unseen clutter are still well below what teleoperation can achieve. Object occlusion by the robot's own hand during the final approach to a grasp is a common and annoying perception problem - the closer the hand gets to a good grasp position, the more it blocks the camera's view of exactly what it's about to grab.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 12:28 pm
by ramirez77
Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here.
Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence. Vision-based grasp confidence estimation (predicting success before attempting a grasp) and tactile-based confirmation (confirming after contact) are complementary rather than competing - vision helps you choose a grasp, tactile tells you if it actually worked.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2026 3:32 pm
by ethan.lewis5
@ramirez77 +1 to this. Worth adding:
Payload-to-hand-weight ratio varies a lot across current dexterous hands, and it's a meaningful tradeoff - more DoF and finer sensing generally means more actuators and mass in the hand itself, which eats into the arm's usable payload budget.
Makes me wonder how this looks in another five years.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2026 10:15 pm
by freya.sokolov
Slight correction, though the overall point stands:
Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2026 6:05 pm
by emily.walker2
This matches something I went through recently.
Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2026 8:39 pm
by thomas65
@emily.walker2 That's the official framing, at least - reality tends to lag a bit.
Underactuated hands (fewer actuators than joints, using mechanical coupling to shape the grasp) are a reasonable engineering compromise for robust power grasps on a budget, but they generally can't do fine in-hand manipulation the way a fully actuated hand can. Figure's fourth-generation Dexterous Hand (on Figure 02/03) reportedly offers 16 degrees of freedom per hand with sensors integrated into each finger, aimed at fine force control tasks like handling small electronic components without crushing them.
Re: How do you handle grasping objects heavier than the rated payload safely?
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2026 10:41 am
by olga_lind
Speaking from personal experience here,
Vision-based grasp confidence estimation (predicting success before attempting a grasp) and tactile-based confirmation (confirming after contact) are complementary rather than competing - vision helps you choose a grasp, tactile tells you if it actually worked. Grasp planning for deformable or non-rigid objects (bags, cables, cloth) remains one of the genuinely unsolved problems in manipulation - rigid-body grasp models simply don't capture how the object will behave once contact starts.