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Re: Anyone building grasp datasets specifically for warehouse-style clutter?

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by pierregreen
@karen.chen3 Minor factual note: Bimanual manipulation - two arms coordinating on one task - is harder than it looks mostly because of the added degrees of freedom and the timing/force coordination required; a lot of 'two-handed' demos are actually closer to two independent single-hand tasks done in sequence. Cable routing through a wrist joint with multiple degrees of freedom is a genuinely tricky mechanical design problem - tendons and wiring both need enough slack to avoid binding through the full range of motion without tangling or fraying over thousands of cycles.

Re: Anyone building grasp datasets specifically for warehouse-style clutter?

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by choi98
@pierregreen I'd take that specific number with a grain of salt, honestly. Compliant wrists that absorb impact during a bad approach or misjudged contact reduce mechanical stress on the whole arm, which matters a lot for long-term reliability even though it's a less visible feature than the hand itself. Tendon-driven fingers let you move the heavier actuators back into the palm or forearm, keeping the fingers themselves light and fast, but they introduce cable routing, tensioning, and long-term wear problems that direct-actuated fingers don't have. Reminds me a bit of the early drone hobbyist scene, honestly.

Re: Anyone building grasp datasets specifically for warehouse-style clutter?

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by gimbalyuk55
This is a great summary, thanks. Vision-based grasp confidence estimation (predicting success before attempting a grasp) and tactile-based confirmation (confirming after contact) are complementary rather than competing - vision helps you choose a grasp, tactile tells you if it actually worked. Palm sensing gets less attention than fingertip sensing, but a lot of power grasps (holding a box, a tool handle) rely more on palm and lateral finger contact than fingertip contact, so under-sensing the palm can leave a real blind spot in grasp confidence.

Re: Anyone building grasp datasets specifically for warehouse-style clutter?

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by chloe_jack
@gimbalyuk55 Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here. Cable routing through a wrist joint with multiple degrees of freedom is a genuinely tricky mechanical design problem - tendons and wiring both need enough slack to avoid binding through the full range of motion without tangling or fraying over thousands of cycles.

Re: Anyone building grasp datasets specifically for warehouse-style clutter?

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by dorothy_kuma
@chloe_jack I see it a little differently. Tendon-driven fingers let you move the heavier actuators back into the palm or forearm, keeping the fingers themselves light and fast, but they introduce cable routing, tensioning, and long-term wear problems that direct-actuated fingers don't have. Anyway, good thread - following for more.