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Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by freya.smith
@samuel.adams I dealt with almost this exact situation.
Event cameras (which report per-pixel brightness changes rather than full frames) are still more of a research curiosity than a production sensor for humanoids, mainly because the software ecosystem and processing pipelines around them are far less mature than for standard frame-based cameras.
This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by gary.tanaka2
@freya.smith Ran into exactly this myself.
Event cameras (which report per-pixel brightness changes rather than full frames) are still more of a research curiosity than a production sensor for humanoids, mainly because the software ecosystem and processing pipelines around them are far less mature than for standard frame-based cameras.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by ivan22
@gary.tanaka2 Just to be precise about one thing:
Unitree's Dex3-1 dexterous hand packs around 33 pressure/tactile sensors per hand across the fingers and palm, capable of sensing pressure roughly in the 10g-2500g range - a useful reference point for what 'production tactile sensing' looks like right now. Proprioception (the robot's sense of its own joint angles, velocities, and forces) tends to get less attention than flashy vision systems, even though a lot of balance and manipulation failures trace back to proprioceptive noise or miscalibration rather than a vision problem.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by samuel.adams
@ivan22 +1 to this. Worth adding:
Unitree's Dex3-1 dexterous hand packs around 33 pressure/tactile sensors per hand across the fingers and palm, capable of sensing pressure roughly in the 10g-2500g range - a useful reference point for what 'production tactile sensing' looks like right now.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by mia.weber
I see it a little differently.
LiDAR gives reliable, lighting-independent range data but is heavier, pricier, and gives sparser point clouds up close than stereo or depth cameras, which is why a lot of humanoids lean on stereo/depth cameras for near-field manipulation and reserve LiDAR (if present at all) for longer-range navigation.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by karen_kim
@mia.weber Speaking from personal experience here,
Multi-camera calibration drifts over time from thermal expansion, vibration, and mechanical wear, which is why production systems typically run periodic recalibration routines rather than assuming a one-time factory calibration holds forever.
Kind of makes me think about how different this all looked even three years ago.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by mia.novak
Sorry if this is a basic question, but
Depth sensing range and reliability both degrade outdoors in direct sunlight for most structured-light and active stereo cameras, since the ambient IR washes out the projected pattern - it's a real limitation for humanoids intended for anything beyond indoor, controlled environments.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by jessica_faro
This matches something I went through recently.
Sensor fusion mostly earns its keep by covering for each individual sensor's weaknesses - vision struggles with occlusion and lighting, IMUs drift, force/torque sensors are noisy at low loads - fusing them gives a more robust estimate than any one source alone, independent of raw compute.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by george92
@jessica_faro Short answer:
Tactile skin arrays have improved a lot, but 'good enough to matter' really depends on the task - coarse contact detection across a large area is fairly mature, while fine, high-resolution force distribution sensing (like a human fingertip) is still the harder problem.
Re: What sensor would meaningfully reduce false positives in obstacle detection?
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 11:59 am
by wei_ross
@george92 Here's what I know on this:
Vibration is one of the most underrated sources of noisy IMU and tactile readings - mounting matters as much as sensor quality, and a poorly isolated mount can add more noise than the sensor's own datasheet specs would suggest.