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Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:45 am
by ashley_flor
@nicole57 This is exactly the kind of context I was looking for. A commonly cited skill gap in new-grad applicants is practical systems integration experience - many candidates are individually strong in ML or in mechanical design, but comparatively few have hands-on experience getting perception, planning, and control to work together reliably on real hardware under time pressure. Companies like Figure, 1X, Apptronik, and Agility Robotics are reportedly pulling senior ROS, controls, and learning engineers directly out of warehouse-automation and industrial-robotics roles - a sign of real talent competition between adjacent industries, not just fresh grads entering the field.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 5:16 pm
by camila.jackson0
I'd push back on this a bit. Companies like Figure, 1X, Apptronik, and Agility Robotics are reportedly pulling senior ROS, controls, and learning engineers directly out of warehouse-automation and industrial-robotics roles - a sign of real talent competition between adjacent industries, not just fresh grads entering the field. How much ML background a controls role actually requires varies a lot by company and team - some whole-body control positions remain heavily classical-optimization-focused, while others increasingly expect familiarity with reinforcement learning or imitation learning even for what used to be a purely classical-controls job.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:46 am
by nicole57
@camila.jackson0 I don't think that's quite right, for what it's worth. Transitioning from industrial automation into humanoid-specific roles is a increasingly common and viable path, since a lot of the underlying skills (motion control, safety systems, real-time software) transfer directly, even though the specific dynamics and learned-control components are new. A commonly cited skill gap in new-grad applicants is practical systems integration experience - many candidates are individually strong in ML or in mechanical design, but comparatively few have hands-on experience getting perception, planning, and control to work together reliably on real hardware under time pressure. This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:06 am
by ramirez77
@nicole57 Short answer: RSS (Robotics: Science and Systems), ICRA, and the IEEE-RAS Humanoids conference are commonly cited as the most directly relevant venues for someone specifically interested in legged locomotion and humanoid control research, as opposed to broader AI/ML conferences. Transitioning from industrial automation into humanoid-specific roles is a increasingly common and viable path, since a lot of the underlying skills (motion control, safety systems, real-time software) transfer directly, even though the specific dynamics and learned-control components are new. This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 11:31 am
by scott.novikova7
Related question - A commonly cited skill gap in new-grad applicants is practical systems integration experience - many candidates are individually strong in ML or in mechanical design, but comparatively few have hands-on experience getting perception, planning, and control to work together reliably on real hardware under time pressure.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:41 am
by giulia.roberts4
This matches what I've seen too. In the UK, base salaries for robotics roles reportedly range from around £50,000 for new graduates up to roughly £200,000 for senior whole-body-control or reinforcement-learning specialists - a notably wide band reflecting how specialized the top end of the field has become. A strong, well-documented personal project (even a modest DIY build or a solid simulation-based RL project) reportedly carries real weight in hiring for this field, partly because the field is young enough that a demonstrated hands-on track record can meaningfully substitute for a less-relevant formal credential.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:55 pm
by byang
Appreciate the detailed answer. How much ML background a controls role actually requires varies a lot by company and team - some whole-body control positions remain heavily classical-optimization-focused, while others increasingly expect familiarity with reinforcement learning or imitation learning even for what used to be a purely classical-controls job.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 9:00 pm
by choi98
Follow-up question though - The common academic path into this field is a master's or conversion course in robotics or machine learning, followed by an internship or research role at a known lab or company - a PhD is common but increasingly not strictly required for industry roles, especially on the applied engineering side.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 3:59 am
by ivan22
@choi98 Minor factual note: Remote work remains genuinely limited for most hands-on humanoid hardware roles, given the need for physical access to robots and test environments, though software-only roles (simulation, perception algorithms, offline learning) increasingly do offer remote or hybrid arrangements.

Re: What's the honest day-to-day tradeoff between research roles and applied engineering roles?

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2025 9:21 am
by nancy_lewi
@ivan22 To answer this directly: A field-deployment or reliability engineer's day-to-day work leans much more toward diagnosing real-world failure patterns, managing spare-parts logistics, and working directly with the customer site than toward algorithm development - a genuinely different role than a lot of new grads expect going in.