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Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 3:03 pm
by carlossanchez
Curious what people here think about this. A genuinely underrated bottleneck is neither hardware nor pure ML - it's the unglamorous integration work of making perception, planning, and control agree with each other reliably for eight-hour shifts. Most flashy demo reels involve some amount of teleoperation, scripted sequencing, or cherry-picked takes - that's not necessarily dishonest, but it does mean the gap between 'demoed' and 'reliably autonomous in production' is still large. Would love to hear from anyone with hands-on experience here.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 6:50 pm
by jonathan.rao1
@carlossanchez This is exactly the kind of context I was looking for. Automotive plants ended up as the first serious proving ground for humanoids mostly because they already have structured environments, safety processes, and budget for automation - not because car assembly is uniquely suited to bipeds. Roughly 7,000-8,000 commercial humanoids are estimated to be operational worldwide as of mid-2026, which sounds like a lot until you compare it to the millions of industrial arms already installed. Makes me wonder how this looks in another five years.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 10:33 pm
by giulia.roberts4
@jonathan.rao1 Can I ask a dumb follow-up - The labor-substitution narrative gets simplified a lot in pitch decks; the more honest framing right now is 'augmenting understaffed, high-turnover roles' rather than wholesale replacement. A recurring pattern in the field: a capability looks solved in a controlled demo, then takes another 18-24 months of engineering to become boringly reliable in the field.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 1:31 am
by jhansen
@giulia.roberts4 This matches what I've seen too. Wheeled-torso designs solve 90% of warehouse and light-industrial tasks with far less complexity than a biped, which is exactly why so many 'humanoid' demos quietly have wheels under a skirt.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 2:08 am
by mohammed64
@jhansen Related question - Elder care is one of the most emotionally appealing use cases and also one of the hardest, because it demands both physical safety around fragile people and social/communication skill that's still far behind the manipulation hype.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 11:40 pm
by ssantos
Genuinely curious - A lot of the current wave genuinely is repackaged 2000s and 2010s research (ZMP walking, whole-body control, DARPA-era grasping) combined with two things that weren't available then: cheap high-torque-density actuators and large-scale learned policies.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 12:53 pm
by jonathan.rao1
@ssantos Just to be precise about one thing: The safety case for humanoids working near people usually leans on compliant/backdrivable joints plus soft force limits, but there isn't yet a mature, widely-adopted standard equivalent to what industrial arms have had for decades.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 2:54 am
by rebecca_lefe
I'd frame this differently. The uncanny valley matters a lot less in a warehouse than in a living room - nobody cares if a picking robot looks a little stiff, but a home-companion robot with a slightly-off gait reads as unsettling fast. Open-source humanoid projects matter less for out-competing the well-funded players and more for keeping the barrier to entry low enough that new ideas and new people can actually get into the field.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 6:03 am
by smartinez
This is exactly the kind of context I was looking for. 'General purpose' in 2026 mostly means 'can be reprogrammed for a new task without new hardware,' not 'can walk into any environment and figure things out unsupervised.' Legs earn their keep specifically where the environment wasn't redesigned for robots - stairs, curbs, uneven yards, cluttered floors - which is a smaller slice of real-world tasks than the marketing suggests.

Re: Which past robotics prediction aged the worst?

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 1:41 pm
by joseph_sing
I'd push back on this a bit. The 'humanoid' form factor mostly wins on infrastructure compatibility, not raw efficiency - stairs, doors, and tools were all built for a human body plan, so a legged, two-armed robot slots into existing spaces without retrofitting them.