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Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 12:00 pm
by diego.moore6
Trying to organize my own thinking on this, so bear with me. Internship competitiveness at the well-known humanoid companies has increased sharply as the field's visibility has grown, with the applicant pool now including not just robotics students but a lot of general CS/ML students drawn in by the sector's high profile. Remote work remains genuinely limited for most hands-on humanoid hardware roles, given the need for physical access to robots and test environments, though software-only roles (simulation, perception algorithms, offline learning) increasingly do offer remote or hybrid arrangements. A field-deployment or reliability engineer's day-to-day work leans much more toward diagnosing real-world failure patterns, managing spare-parts logistics, and working directly with the customer site than toward algorithm development - a genuinely different role than a lot of new grads expect going in. Interested in both agreement and pushback here.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 12:58 pm
by yuki71
Still learning the space, so correct me if wrong - A commonly cited skill gap in new-grad applicants is practical systems integration experience - many candidates are individually strong in ML or in mechanical design, but comparatively few have hands-on experience getting perception, planning, and control to work together reliably on real hardware under time pressure. A whole-body control engineer's day-to-day work is a mix of formulating and tuning constrained optimization problems, debugging why a controller behaves differently on hardware than in simulation, and a surprising amount of time spent on numerical stability and solver performance rather than pure algorithm design.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:12 pm
by noah_pate
Just to be precise about one thing: The common academic path into this field is a master's or conversion course in robotics or machine learning, followed by an internship or research role at a known lab or company - a PhD is common but increasingly not strictly required for industry roles, especially on the applied engineering side.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 5:30 pm
by jwang
Minor factual note: Transitioning from industrial automation into humanoid-specific roles is a increasingly common and viable path, since a lot of the underlying skills (motion control, safety systems, real-time software) transfer directly, even though the specific dynamics and learned-control components are new. Companies like Figure, 1X, Apptronik, and Agility Robotics are reportedly pulling senior ROS, controls, and learning engineers directly out of warehouse-automation and industrial-robotics roles - a sign of real talent competition between adjacent industries, not just fresh grads entering the field.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:48 pm
by jhansen
@jwang I'd frame this differently. How much ML background a controls role actually requires varies a lot by company and team - some whole-body control positions remain heavily classical-optimization-focused, while others increasingly expect familiarity with reinforcement learning or imitation learning even for what used to be a purely classical-controls job.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:34 pm
by giulia.roberts4
This raises a question for me - 24/7 factory-pilot support roles (the engineers keeping a deployed fleet running through real shifts) reportedly carry a real burnout risk, since they combine the unpredictability of early-stage hardware with the operational pressure of a live production environment.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 2:18 am
by chloe_jack
From hands-on experience, Active employers hiring specifically for humanoid-relevant roles span both established robotics companies (Shadow Robot, Engineered Arts, PAL Robotics) and the newer venture-funded players (Figure, 1X, Apptronik, Sanctuary AI, Boston Dynamics' electric Atlas program) - each with different team sizes, cultures, and hardware-vs-software emphasis.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 5:27 pm
by larrysokolov
Not to derail, but this reminds me of something adjacent: RSS (Robotics: Science and Systems), ICRA, and the IEEE-RAS Humanoids conference are commonly cited as the most directly relevant venues for someone specifically interested in legged locomotion and humanoid control research, as opposed to broader AI/ML conferences.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2025 4:22 pm
by pierregreen
From what I've seen: A strong, well-documented personal project (even a modest DIY build or a solid simulation-based RL project) reportedly carries real weight in hiring for this field, partly because the field is young enough that a demonstrated hands-on track record can meaningfully substitute for a less-relevant formal credential.

Re: Anyone turned down a well-known company for a smaller, less flashy one - regrets?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:09 pm
by dchen
That's the official framing, at least - reality tends to lag a bit. In the UK, base salaries for robotics roles reportedly range from around £50,000 for new graduates up to roughly £200,000 for senior whole-body-control or reinforcement-learning specialists - a notably wide band reflecting how specialized the top end of the field has become. Robotics engineers in the US were reportedly seeing $150k-$205k total comp at mid-level and $205k-$300k at senior level in 2026, with humanoid- and foundation-model-specialist roles clearing $280k-$475k - a meaningful premium over general robotics/automation roles.