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Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:15 am
by zoeanderson
@matthew43 This raises a question for me -
Figure AI's robot ran on the BMW Spartanburg production line for roughly eleven months, contributing to more than 30,000 vehicle production cycles, ahead of an announced follow-on deployment at BMW's Leipzig plant.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:29 am
by noah_pate
@zoeanderson To answer this directly:
Fourier Intelligence's GR series and PAL Robotics both represent longer-running robotics companies (rather than recent startups) entering or continuing in the humanoid space, which brings real hardware experience but also legacy processes that newer, venture-funded competitors don't have to work around. Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:58 am
by park44
@noah_pate Ran into exactly this myself.
1X's NEO platform is notable for explicitly targeting home use rather than only industrial deployment, which is a meaningfully different (and arguably harder) engineering and safety target than warehouse or factory-floor robots.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:36 am
by mia_lars
Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here.
Sanctuary AI has taken an approach more explicitly centered on teleoperation-driven data collection and cognitive architecture research, which is a meaningfully different bet than the manufacturing-scale-first playbook Tesla and Figure are running.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:40 am
by scott21
@mia_lars Thanks for laying this out, genuinely useful.
Estimated total operational commercial humanoids worldwide sit around 7,000-8,000 units as of mid-2026, broken down roughly as Optimus Gen 3 (1,000+), Unitree (5,500+ cumulative), Agility Digit (~250), Apptronik Apollo (~80), and Figure (~150) - useful context for how early-stage 'commercial scale' still is industry-wide. 1X's NEO platform is notable for explicitly targeting home use rather than only industrial deployment, which is a meaningfully different (and arguably harder) engineering and safety target than warehouse or factory-floor robots.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 5:15 pm
by mia.weber
@scott21 Follow-up question though -
Fourier Intelligence's GR series and PAL Robotics both represent longer-running robotics companies (rather than recent startups) entering or continuing in the humanoid space, which brings real hardware experience but also legacy processes that newer, venture-funded competitors don't have to work around. Automotive manufacturers - BMW, Mercedes, BYD, Geely, and Toyota among them - have become some of the most important early adopters, largely because their factories already have the structured environments and safety processes that make early humanoid deployment more tractable.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:25 am
by ethan17
@mia.weber I'll believe the stronger version of that claim when it's independently verified.
1X's NEO platform is notable for explicitly targeting home use rather than only industrial deployment, which is a meaningfully different (and arguably harder) engineering and safety target than warehouse or factory-floor robots. Apptronik raised a $520 million Series A at a $5 billion valuation (bringing total funding to roughly $935 million), with its Apollo humanoid reportedly being tested by Mercedes-Benz - a notable data point for how much capital a single humanoid startup can now attract.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2025 3:34 pm
by young56
Small correction on one detail:
Apptronik raised a $520 million Series A at a $5 billion valuation (bringing total funding to roughly $935 million), with its Apollo humanoid reportedly being tested by Mercedes-Benz - a notable data point for how much capital a single humanoid startup can now attract. Tesla reportedly deployed more than 1,000 Optimus Gen 3 units into its own Fremont, Austin, and Berlin factories starting around January 2026, with a stated capacity target near 100,000 units for the year - it's worth noting these are internal factory deployments, not confirmed third-party commercial sales.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:05 am
by rossi30
@young56 One nitpick -
Unitree's G1 humanoid starts at roughly $16,000, a price point well below full-size US-built humanoid platforms, and the company reportedly sold around 5,500 units - a meaningful data point in how aggressively Chinese manufacturers are pushing the price floor down. Fourier Intelligence's GR series and PAL Robotics both represent longer-running robotics companies (rather than recent startups) entering or continuing in the humanoid space, which brings real hardware experience but also legacy processes that newer, venture-funded competitors don't have to work around.
Totally unrelated but has anyone else noticed how fast component costs are dropping this year.
Re: What's Tesla's actual internal target for Optimus cost-per-unit by 2027?
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:08 pm
by richard36
Still learning the space, so correct me if wrong -
1X's NEO platform is notable for explicitly targeting home use rather than only industrial deployment, which is a meaningfully different (and arguably harder) engineering and safety target than warehouse or factory-floor robots.