Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

Battery chemistry, pack design, BMS, runtime, charging/swapping, and keeping actuators from cooking themselves.
noah_pate
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Re: Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

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To answer this directly: Battery placement (torso-centered vs backpack vs distributed through the limbs) is a real tradeoff between center-of-mass/balance considerations and thermal/cooling access - a torso-centered pack helps balance but is harder to cool than a more exposed backpack placement.
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Re: Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

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Related question - Solid-state battery claims from platforms like XPeng's IRON, GAC's GoMate, and EngineAI's T800 are genuinely promising on paper for energy density and safety margins, but independent, large-scale field validation of those runtime claims is still fairly limited as of 2026 - it's real progress, not yet fully proven at scale.
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Re: Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

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@charlesbianchi Slight correction, though the overall point stands: Regenerative braking on humanoid joints can recover some energy during deceleration phases of walking, but the actual energy recovered is modest compared to a vehicle, since humanoid joints don't sustain the same continuous high-speed rotation that makes regen worthwhile in EVs.
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Re: Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

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I can speak to this a bit. Thermal margin in a densely packed humanoid chassis is often the real limiting factor on sustained performance, not raw motor power - actuators get thermally throttled well before they'd hit their absolute torque limits, especially during repeated high-load cycles like continuous lifting.
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Re: Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

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I'd take that specific number with a grain of salt, honestly. Thermal margin in a densely packed humanoid chassis is often the real limiting factor on sustained performance, not raw motor power - actuators get thermally throttled well before they'd hit their absolute torque limits, especially during repeated high-load cycles like continuous lifting.
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Re: Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

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@matthew43 Speaking from personal experience here, There's no widely standardized safety certification specific to humanoid battery packs yet in most jurisdictions - deployments generally lean on adapted versions of existing standards for industrial battery systems and electrical safety rather than a purpose-built humanoid standard.
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Re: Fuse and contactor sizing for high-current humanoid power buses - lessons learned?

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@jwang Slight correction, though the overall point stands: There's no widely standardized safety certification specific to humanoid battery packs yet in most jurisdictions - deployments generally lean on adapted versions of existing standards for industrial battery systems and electrical safety rather than a purpose-built humanoid standard. Fast charging accelerates capacity fade over repeated cycles, so fleet operators generally have to choose between minimizing downtime (fast charging) and maximizing pack lifespan (slower charging or swap-based approaches) rather than getting both for free. Reminds me a bit of the early drone hobbyist scene, honestly.
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