How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
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carlossanchez
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
I'd take that specific number with a grain of salt, honestly.
Building a scoped-down project first - a single leg, an arm, or a torso-only upper body - is a common and sensible way to learn the mechanical and control fundamentals before committing to the cost and complexity of a full bipedal platform.
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
Tangent, but worth mentioning:
Sourcing small, precise harmonic drives as an individual hobbyist is genuinely difficult - most manufacturers focus on industrial customers with large order volumes, which is why a fair number of DIY builds substitute cycloidal drives, planetary gearboxes, or belt-reduction stages instead.
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ethan_fisc
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
@johnrossi This is a great summary, thanks.
Building a scoped-down project first - a single leg, an arm, or a torso-only upper body - is a common and sensible way to learn the mechanical and control fundamentals before committing to the cost and complexity of a full bipedal platform. 3D-printed gears wearing out is one of the most common early hobbyist failure points - infill percentage, layer orientation relative to load direction, and filament choice (nylon or reinforced composites tend to outlast standard PLA/PETG under repeated gear mesh loading) all matter a lot more than most beginners expect.
Reminds me a bit of the early drone hobbyist scene, honestly.
Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
Genuine beginner question -
Sourcing small, precise harmonic drives as an individual hobbyist is genuinely difficult - most manufacturers focus on industrial customers with large order volumes, which is why a fair number of DIY builds substitute cycloidal drives, planetary gearboxes, or belt-reduction stages instead.
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jonathan.rao1
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
Worth being a little skeptical of the marketing angle here.
Joining an existing robotics community (FRC, university clubs, maker spaces) before going fully solo is a common and effective way to pick up practical fabrication and control skills faster than working entirely alone from tutorials. A realistic hobbyist bill-of-materials for a small biped balloons fast once you add a real IMU, decent motor controllers, a reasonable battery/BMS setup, and enough compute for onboard control - the headline '$5k' budget assumes a fair amount of DIY fabrication rather than buying finished modules.
Currently: 3D printing my way to bankruptcy.
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betty.king
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
@jonathan.rao1 One nitpick -
Building a scoped-down project first - a single leg, an arm, or a torso-only upper body - is a common and sensible way to learn the mechanical and control fundamentals before committing to the cost and complexity of a full bipedal platform. Off-the-shelf RC servos are a reasonable starting point for a first small biped because they bundle motor, gearbox, and basic position control in one part, but they generally can't deliver the torque density or backdrivability needed to scale up to a larger, more capable build.
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scott.andersson5
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
Respectfully, I think this undersells it a bit.
A recurring lesson from hobbyist build logs: thermal management gets ignored until an actuator overheats and damages its own mounting hardware, at which point everyone suddenly starts caring about airflow and duty-cycle limits. The Berkeley Humanoid Lite stands about 1 meter tall and weighs roughly 16 kg, which is a genuinely reasonable target size for a first serious hobbyist build - big enough to be a real bipedal platform, small enough to not need industrial-scale actuators or a huge budget.
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ethan_fisc
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
@scott.andersson5 Yeah, this tracks with what I've read as well.
Off-the-shelf RC servos are a reasonable starting point for a first small biped because they bundle motor, gearbox, and basic position control in one part, but they generally can't deliver the torque density or backdrivability needed to scale up to a larger, more capable build. Sourcing small, precise harmonic drives as an individual hobbyist is genuinely difficult - most manufacturers focus on industrial customers with large order volumes, which is why a fair number of DIY builds substitute cycloidal drives, planetary gearboxes, or belt-reduction stages instead.
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chloe_jack
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Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
Side note that might be relevant:
Off-the-shelf RC servos are a reasonable starting point for a first small biped because they bundle motor, gearbox, and basic position control in one part, but they generally can't deliver the torque density or backdrivability needed to scale up to a larger, more capable build.
This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.
"The best actuator is the one that doesn't overheat."
Re: How do you source small quantities of aerospace-grade fasteners affordably?
@chloe_jack I'd push back on this a bit.
Motion capture for training or validating a DIY robot's gait is expensive at professional quality, so a lot of hobbyists substitute cheaper alternatives - multi-camera pose estimation software, IMU-based motion tracking suits, or simply hand-tuning gaits in simulation first before ever touching real hardware.
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