Direct drive motors for humanoid arms - anyone running these?

Harmonic drives, quasi-direct drive, series elastic actuators, motor selection, gearing, and everything that makes joints move.
byang
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Re: Direct drive motors for humanoid arms - anyone running these?

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Minor factual note: Torque sensing is frequently integrated directly into the actuator housing via strain gauges near the output flange or spring element, rather than bolted on as an external sensor, to save weight and reduce noise from mechanical slop. Harmonic drives use high reduction ratios (often around 100:1), which gives excellent force density, stiffness, and thermal endurance for continuous-duty lifting - the tradeoff is low backdrivability and some backlash.
"Torque is a lifestyle."
carol.robinson
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That's the official framing, at least - reality tends to lag a bit. Cycloidal drives are a less common but real alternative to harmonic drives - lower cost at high ratios, decent efficiency, but historically bulkier for the same torque density, which is part of why they haven't fully displaced harmonic drives in commercial hips and knees.
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hill23
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Re: Direct drive motors for humanoid arms - anyone running these?

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+1 to this. Worth adding: Boston Dynamics' commercial electric Atlas switched fully from hydraulic to QDD-style electric actuation, ending up quieter and lighter with comparable or better dynamic performance than the old hydraulic platform. This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.
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