Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
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gimbalmar65
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
Just to be precise about one thing:
Starting in simulation (even a simplified physics sim of just the leg or the target gait) before touching real hardware is one of the more reliable ways to avoid destroying expensive parts while debugging balance and walking control from scratch. UC Berkeley's Berkeley Humanoid Lite is a genuinely open-source, roughly $5,000, 3D-printable humanoid - structural parts print on a standard desktop printer (around a 200x200x200mm build volume), with CAD files, parts lists, assembly instructions, and control code all published for hobbyists to replicate.
Currently: 3D printing my way to bankruptcy.
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scott.andersson5
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
@gimbalmar65 This is a great summary, thanks.
Jetson-class boards remain a common choice for onboard compute on hobbyist builds needing real vision or learned-policy inference, while a Raspberry Pi is often adequate for lower-level joint control and telemetry if the heavier compute is offloaded to a base station.
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joseph_sing
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
@scott.andersson5 Agreed, and I'd add:
A first successful unassisted walk, from a standing start on a from-scratch project, commonly takes many months of part-time weekend work even for someone with a solid mechanical and software background - it's a genuinely hard milestone, not a weekend project. Jetson-class boards remain a common choice for onboard compute on hobbyist builds needing real vision or learned-policy inference, while a Raspberry Pi is often adequate for lower-level joint control and telemetry if the heavier compute is offloaded to a base station.
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
@joseph_sing Follow-up question though -
Building a scoped-down project first - a single leg, an arm, or a torso-only upper body - is a common and sensible way to learn the mechanical and control fundamentals before committing to the cost and complexity of a full bipedal platform.
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harmonicjen60
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
@johnrossi I can speak to this a bit.
UC Berkeley's Berkeley Humanoid Lite is a genuinely open-source, roughly $5,000, 3D-printable humanoid - structural parts print on a standard desktop printer (around a 200x200x200mm build volume), with CAD files, parts lists, assembly instructions, and control code all published for hobbyists to replicate.
Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
Appreciate the detailed answer.
Group-buy arrangements for harder-to-source parts (small harmonic drives, precision bearings, custom PCBs) are a common way hobbyist communities work around the fact that specialty components are often only sold in industrial minimum-order quantities.
Makes me wonder how this looks in another five years.
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freya.smith
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
Just to be precise about one thing:
Building a scoped-down project first - a single leg, an arm, or a torso-only upper body - is a common and sensible way to learn the mechanical and control fundamentals before committing to the cost and complexity of a full bipedal platform. Group-buy arrangements for harder-to-source parts (small harmonic drives, precision bearings, custom PCBs) are a common way hobbyist communities work around the fact that specialty components are often only sold in industrial minimum-order quantities.
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
@freya.smith Not sure I fully agree here.
A first successful unassisted walk, from a standing start on a from-scratch project, commonly takes many months of part-time weekend work even for someone with a solid mechanical and software background - it's a genuinely hard milestone, not a weekend project.
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servoken70
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
@smartinez +1 to this. Worth adding:
A realistic hobbyist bill-of-materials for a small biped balloons fast once you add a real IMU, decent motor controllers, a reasonable battery/BMS setup, and enough compute for onboard control - the headline '$5k' budget assumes a fair amount of DIY fabrication rather than buying finished modules. 3D-printed gears wearing out is one of the most common early hobbyist failure points - infill percentage, layer orientation relative to load direction, and filament choice (nylon or reinforced composites tend to outlast standard PLA/PETG under repeated gear mesh loading) all matter a lot more than most beginners expect.
Watching this space closely since 2019.
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brian.campbell
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Re: Anyone tried a group-funded open hardware harmonic drive project?
@servoken70 This matches something I went through recently.
The Berkeley Humanoid Lite stands about 1 meter tall and weighs roughly 16 kg, which is a genuinely reasonable target size for a first serious hobbyist build - big enough to be a real bipedal platform, small enough to not need industrial-scale actuators or a huge budget.