Torque ripple mitigation - control tricks vs mechanical fixes

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jwang
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Re: Torque ripple mitigation - control tricks vs mechanical fixes

Post by jwang »

Appreciate the detailed answer. Motor cogging torque (the 'notchy' feel from magnet-to-slot interactions) shows up as small periodic torque ripple that can translate into visible joint jitter at low speeds - it's usually mitigated with skewed magnets, better current control, or software compensation tables.
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Re: Torque ripple mitigation - control tricks vs mechanical fixes

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Here's what I know on this: Backdrivability is the property that lets an external force move a joint without destroying the gearbox or the motor - it's central to both safe human-robot contact and to letting a leg comply naturally when the robot stumbles.
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Re: Torque ripple mitigation - control tricks vs mechanical fixes

Post by diego.moore6 »

Not to derail, but this reminds me of something adjacent: For dynamic walking and recovery, joint control bandwidth in the tens of Hz range is typically necessary to react to a stumble before the center of mass gets too far outside the support polygon. Field-oriented control (FOC) tuning directly affects how smooth torque output feels - poorly tuned current loops show up as audible whine and jerky low-speed motion, while well-tuned FOC can make even a geared actuator feel fairly fluid. This whole thread is a good reminder how young this field still is.
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Re: Torque ripple mitigation - control tricks vs mechanical fixes

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From what I've seen: Field-oriented control (FOC) tuning directly affects how smooth torque output feels - poorly tuned current loops show up as audible whine and jerky low-speed motion, while well-tuned FOC can make even a geared actuator feel fairly fluid.
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Re: Torque ripple mitigation - control tricks vs mechanical fixes

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This is a great summary, thanks. Boston Dynamics' commercial electric Atlas switched fully from hydraulic to QDD-style electric actuation, ending up quieter and lighter with comparable or better dynamic performance than the old hydraulic platform.
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Re: Torque ripple mitigation - control tricks vs mechanical fixes

Post by green28 »

@kim37 To answer this directly: Anti-backlash techniques in production actuators range from mechanical preloading (spring-loaded gear meshes) to purely software compensation that models and corrects for known backlash in the control loop.
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