What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
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matthew.yamamoto0
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
@joseph_sing Yeah, this tracks with what I've read as well.
Roughly 7,000-8,000 commercial humanoids are estimated to be operational worldwide as of mid-2026, which sounds like a lot until you compare it to the millions of industrial arms already installed. The labor-substitution narrative gets simplified a lot in pitch decks; the more honest framing right now is 'augmenting understaffed, high-turnover roles' rather than wholesale replacement.
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brian.campbell
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
@matthew.yamamoto0 +1 to this. Worth adding:
The 'humanoid' form factor mostly wins on infrastructure compatibility, not raw efficiency - stairs, doors, and tools were all built for a human body plan, so a legged, two-armed robot slots into existing spaces without retrofitting them.
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ananya.novak
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
@brian.campbell +1 to this. Worth adding:
Legs earn their keep specifically where the environment wasn't redesigned for robots - stairs, curbs, uneven yards, cluttered floors - which is a smaller slice of real-world tasks than the marketing suggests.
Totally unrelated but has anyone else noticed how fast component costs are dropping this year.
Currently: 3D printing my way to bankruptcy.
Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
New to this, so forgive me if this is obvious -
Roughly 7,000-8,000 commercial humanoids are estimated to be operational worldwide as of mid-2026, which sounds like a lot until you compare it to the millions of industrial arms already installed. The labor-substitution narrative gets simplified a lot in pitch decks; the more honest framing right now is 'augmenting understaffed, high-turnover roles' rather than wholesale replacement.
"The best actuator is the one that doesn't overheat."
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harmonicjen60
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
Minor factual note:
Roughly 7,000-8,000 commercial humanoids are estimated to be operational worldwide as of mid-2026, which sounds like a lot until you compare it to the millions of industrial arms already installed. The uncanny valley matters a lot less in a warehouse than in a living room - nobody cares if a picking robot looks a little stiff, but a home-companion robot with a slightly-off gait reads as unsettling fast.
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carlossanchez
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
Related question -
A recurring pattern in the field: a capability looks solved in a controlled demo, then takes another 18-24 months of engineering to become boringly reliable in the field.
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rebecca_lefe
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
Appreciate the detailed answer.
A lot of the current wave genuinely is repackaged 2000s and 2010s research (ZMP walking, whole-body control, DARPA-era grasping) combined with two things that weren't available then: cheap high-torque-density actuators and large-scale learned policies.
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freya.smith
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
Just to be precise about one thing:
Wheeled-torso designs solve 90% of warehouse and light-industrial tasks with far less complexity than a biped, which is exactly why so many 'humanoid' demos quietly have wheels under a skirt. Legs earn their keep specifically where the environment wasn't redesigned for robots - stairs, curbs, uneven yards, cluttered floors - which is a smaller slice of real-world tasks than the marketing suggests.
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Re: What does 'general purpose' really mean for a humanoid in practice today?
This lines up with my experience.
The safety case for humanoids working near people usually leans on compliant/backdrivable joints plus soft force limits, but there isn't yet a mature, widely-adopted standard equivalent to what industrial arms have had for decades.
Anyway, good thread - following for more.
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