Reflected inertia - why it matters more than peak torque sometimes

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olga_lind
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Re: Reflected inertia - why it matters more than peak torque sometimes

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From hands-on experience, Anti-backlash techniques in production actuators range from mechanical preloading (spring-loaded gear meshes) to purely software compensation that models and corrects for known backlash in the control loop.
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Re: Reflected inertia - why it matters more than peak torque sometimes

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@olga_lind To answer this directly: Series elastic actuators add a spring element in series with the drivetrain, which gives cheap, precise torque sensing (measure spring deflection) and passive shock absorption, at the cost of reduced control bandwidth and added complexity. Field-oriented control (FOC) tuning directly affects how smooth torque output feels - poorly tuned current loops show up as audible whine and jerky low-speed motion, while well-tuned FOC can make even a geared actuator feel fairly fluid.
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young56
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Re: Reflected inertia - why it matters more than peak torque sometimes

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Minor factual note: Anti-backlash techniques in production actuators range from mechanical preloading (spring-loaded gear meshes) to purely software compensation that models and corrects for known backlash in the control loop.
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Re: Reflected inertia - why it matters more than peak torque sometimes

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Just to be precise about one thing: Backdrivability is the property that lets an external force move a joint without destroying the gearbox or the motor - it's central to both safe human-robot contact and to letting a leg comply naturally when the robot stumbles.
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Re: Reflected inertia - why it matters more than peak torque sometimes

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Ran into exactly this myself. Motor cogging torque (the 'notchy' feel from magnet-to-slot interactions) shows up as small periodic torque ripple that can translate into visible joint jitter at low speeds - it's usually mitigated with skewed magnets, better current control, or software compensation tables.
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Re: Reflected inertia - why it matters more than peak torque sometimes

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@ethan_fisc Not to derail, but this reminds me of something adjacent: Torque sensing is frequently integrated directly into the actuator housing via strain gauges near the output flange or spring element, rather than bolted on as an external sensor, to save weight and reduce noise from mechanical slop. Anyway, good thread - following for more.
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